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] Was Antigua at the time JA wrote Mansfield Park (around 1812-14) predominantly slave-owning or was it not?

I wish this larger subject was susceptible to such an easy answer.

Jason makes a lot of good points, but is wrong on two - Antigua would have been instantly recognisable to most of Jane Austen's readers, not least because of the associations with Nelson and with the Duke of Clarence (whose house is now the residence of the current President) and was at the very centre of the naval action. Yes, other place were fought over; St. Lucia springs to mind, but a bit like saying London and Portsmouth weren't really involved in the Second World War because they didn't change hands.

There were sugar plantations, although other islands were increasingly more successful, and other agriculture, and much activity would have evolved to support the dockyard and barracks. There certainly there were slaves, and indentured servants and free laborers.

Notably at the dockyard... At the yard, there were skilled resident tradesman and artificers, many of them black. They were employed for the repair of ships. The Bosun was in charge of laborers who were Africans, bought by the Navy and known as the King's Negroes. Their responsibilities included the building and maintenance of facilities and wharves, the warping of ships into the harbor and the preparation work prior to careening.

As far as the later history it is strikingly like Malta in our times - too dependent on the Navy, eager to be independent, and then free and poor.

So why did Jane Austen choose Antigua - I still say because she knew about it and her readers would also - if she had wanted to make a point about slavery she could easily have chosen another island, perhaps Jamaica. Now there's an island we could argue about !!!

Messages In This Thread

Mrs. Elton linked to the slave trade?
Rather a friend to the abolition....
I suspect JA of being ironic here
Suckling
Suckling to Hawkins
Not sure.
I read the same paper
Hawkins
Thanks for the link
Well, let's ge the history right, shall we?;-)
Let us indeed get the history right.
Slavery, Tortola, and a primary source....
Awareness of slavery
The dishonourable Arthur Hodge....
Aha!!!
Insubordination in Antigua.....
The High Price of Sugar....Antiguan slave labour....
These things were known at the time
Don't need history books....
Slaves, slave-owners, history, Sir Thomas, the French, outrage...
If it starts from an idea in JA ...
Slaves and other unfortunates...
a quick PS about Uncle Tom's Cabin
Isn't it Uncle Tom's 150th birthday?
Bouncing ideas......
The High Price of Sugar...Part Deux...
back to Sir Thomas
But I'm on your side!
JA, characterisation and further research
Others are following it...
Sir Thomas in Antigua
I am committing one of the seven deadly sins
LOL! If it's any consolation.....
What a fascinating thread...!
Then Let's try some more, and pin it down further.
Some More Thoughts on Sugar and Slaves
Agreed.
Sir Thomas and a different sort of slavery
Thanks Caroline!
At the risk of getting off-topic
British Cane Cutters...??
I think "mud" and "blood"
Let's also get the argument right
Wonderful exchange, but why Antigua, pray ???
Right, Stewart, you can settle it
Why Antigua
Good point!
Australian prejudice
from the land of immigrants...
England sent the best to Oz, of course (nfm)
A well-founded prejudice
Help - they're dragging in the spectators now
Umpires, Stewart, umpires
Yes, but...
British public opinion in 1814
Reactions to history
Reacting
American and other slavery
Patriot Games